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akylodarkly83:
You realize the General Audience doesn’t care about any of that right? Training montages and tech worship is reserved for extra materials for a reason. The audience never saw Luke use a lightsaber to fight anyone until he fought Darth Vader, it was just assumed he’d been training between movies and during his time on Dagobah.
In TFA, we literally see Rey fight off a pair of goons with a staff by herself then see her train some more in TLJ by herself until she starts experimenting with the lightsaber more. We literally see her training again in the D23 tros trailer when she throws the saber through the tree at the training remote, so the GA is going to assume she’s been practicing between movies and because it’s the last movie, OFC she’s more proficient than she was before.
Training has literally nothing to do with the heart of the story and isn’t necessary to the plot unless it directly foreshadows a future plot point. We still don’t know the context of Dark Rey in this shot but if she ends up using a saberstaff for real, the GA already knows that she:
A) can use a staff
B) is strong with the Force
C) has been actively training as shown in the movies, therefore she knows how to wield a weapon.
If anyone cares about what ‘Form’ she’s using or what school of saber technique it is, they can learn that from the comics or extra materials, The GA doesn’t care.
IMO so much of this bullshit discourse about characters ‘earning’ their abilities comes from the MCU’s focus on formulaic plot-driven movies. The ‘tech’ and ‘training’ are generally part of the fun of comic book movies but are ultimately nothing but fan service unless they explore specific gadgets that the Hero uses later on in a fight.
Nobody in OT Star Wars ‘earned’ their abilities, we never saw Han Solo learn how to fly, or Leia learn how to shoot, but since Luke was the primary focus, we followed his journey with him and learned about the Force and the Jedi as he learned about it, but the ‘how’ was never part of the heart of SW. The entire saga has been about the choices characters make with the abilities they learn along the way and because each trilogy is an overarching story, the final movie always changes the GA’s perception of the previous two.
I personally don’t give a flying shit about how Rey learns to wield a saberstaff, if she even does so in the movie, because if the story is about her choices and her struggles vs Ben Solo’s , the background details are just that.
SW has never been about the ‘tech and training’ except in the ancillary materials. It’s about the struggle between the light side and dark side tendencies in a fairy tale setting. The story is the characters, not what fabric their tunics are made out of.
magnumpicactus:
aye
inventive-inc:
When you use staff, there is no chance of you accidentally cutting parts off of yourself. Lightsaber is different
magnumpicactus:
there’s actually. like. A huge difference between the two too alkansjskk
inventive-inc:
A staff and a lightsaber arent the same thing.
akylodarkly83:
I just cant guys. I can’t. The girl has been using a staff most of her life but apparently that’s not enough for some people. 😒😒😒
akylodarkly83:
You realize the General Audience doesn’t care about any of that right? Training montages and tech worship is reserved for extra materials for a reason. The audience never saw Luke use a lightsaber to fight anyone until he fought Darth Vader, it was just assumed he’d been training between movies and during his time on Dagobah.
In TFA, we literally see Rey fight off a pair of goons with a staff by herself then see her train some more in TLJ by herself until she starts experimenting with the lightsaber more. We literally see her training again in the D23 tros trailer when she throws the saber through the tree at the training remote, so the GA is going to assume she’s been practicing between movies and because it’s the last movie, OFC she’s more proficient than she was before.
Training has literally nothing to do with the heart of the story and isn’t necessary to the plot unless it directly foreshadows a future plot point. We still don’t know the context of Dark Rey in this shot but if she ends up using a saberstaff for real, the GA already knows that she:
A) can use a staff
B) is strong with the Force
C) has been actively training as shown in the movies, therefore she knows how to wield a weapon.
If anyone cares about what ‘Form’ she’s using or what school of saber technique it is, they can learn that from the comics or extra materials, The GA doesn’t care.
IMO so much of this bullshit discourse about characters ‘earning’ their abilities comes from the MCU’s focus on formulaic plot-driven movies. The ‘tech’ and ‘training’ are generally part of the fun of comic book movies but are ultimately nothing but fan service unless they explore specific gadgets that the Hero uses later on in a fight.
Nobody in OT Star Wars ‘earned’ their abilities, we never saw Han Solo learn how to fly, or Leia learn how to shoot, but since Luke was the primary focus, we followed his journey with him and learned about the Force and the Jedi as he learned about it, but the ‘how’ was never part of the heart of SW. The entire saga has been about the choices characters make with the abilities they learn along the way and because each trilogy is an overarching story, the final movie always changes the GA’s perception of the previous two.
I personally don’t give a flying shit about how Rey learns to wield a saberstaff, if she even does so in the movie, because if the story is about her choices and her struggles vs Ben Solo’s , the background details are just that.
SW has never been about the ‘tech and training’ except in the ancillary materials. It’s about the struggle between the light side and dark side tendencies in a fairy tale setting. The story is the characters, not what fabric their tunics are made out of.
magnumpicactus:
aye
inventive-inc:
When you use staff, there is no chance of you accidentally cutting parts off of yourself. Lightsaber is different
magnumpicactus:
there’s actually. like. A huge difference between the two too alkansjskk
inventive-inc:
A staff and a lightsaber arent the same thing.
akylodarkly83:
I just cant guys. I can’t. The girl has been using a staff most of her life but apparently that’s not enough for some people. 😒😒😒