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This all still leaves with the need to explain why…
Wasn’t Starkiller Base mainly defended by safeguards that were built in to the machinery? Like the oscillator could only be shut down from the inside, and no one could get in from the outside short of pulling a maneuver that was thought to be impossible? That’s further proof of good engineering.
But yeah, why they are having their top engineer leading their navy rather than leaving him with a university full of eager minds on a highly fortified planet/ship somewhere in the Unknown Regions, where he can churn out new laws-of-hyperspace defying inventions on a more regular basis, idk. Seems a huge waste of resources.
As does killing him, to be frank. They should stick him in a comfy jail cell and have him create useful things that are not weapons instead.
Yup, I’ve no idea, I’d actually put my engineer in some tightly-controlled, but pretty nice tower, too, and make sure my enemies don’t know much about him, not push him on the posters and at the front. But perhaps this is a new twist in the classic list of “All Silly Mistakes EvilOverLords in Popculture Do”. ;)
“They should stick him in a comfy jail cell and have him create useful things that are not weapons instead.”
Weapons, too, every government needs weapons. ;)
Yup, that’s how it went in rl history, so if it was rl life history Hux could be perfectly sure he’s safe no matter what’s gonna do except irritating moody and irrational Supreme Leaders. No matter how many planets you kaboom, darling, the winning side would want you to create some more kabooms and other tech miracles for them.
I still think in the galaxy, when the whole trade is inter-planetarian, the whole tracker thing is actually wasted in the military (although I still not quite get how revolutionary it was, if in ANH Empire tracks Rebel base via Falcon. it was faster, so perhaps real-time was a crux here), the transport business - and this whole galaxy lives from the transport! smugglers, even the Naboo blockage it’s about transport - would love it, it would probably revolutionise the insurance market, too. They would get much more money on a market, and they’re wasting it for Leia’s merry little band?! (and now, I hope, DJ got the plans and he’s gonna make those money :D)
Hux only actual worry in something resembling logic/anything realistic should be, at most, to kill his whole tech team&destroy the notes if the Republic was winning&coming, to make sure he’s absolute irreplaceable. It would be even viable for them to torture him, because in the tech projects of such magnitude a one wrongly given number can be absolutely unnoticeable until a millions of credits/months later - and so tortures wouldn’t be a viable method of getting the info.
persnoal writing digression: heh, this is what’s happening in all my fics, because I cannot shake rl from my id ;). the Republic is very hurt and angry, sure, but they just cannot kill such a money, they need money to rebuild, and their enemies grew stronger, so they also need new, shiny weapons. c’est la vie. They’re gonna built a beautiful monument for Hosnian Prime’s victims and found the stipends for their families from, like, 5% of the Hux’s tech (immediately nationalised) profits. :D
But since it’s Disney. since they actually called this last ep Rise of… sob, sob, sob, now, I cannot say this… since I saw the teaser, I have no hope, no damn hope for any logic, sense or quality. I can hope the Second Coming will happen before December, at best. ;))
There’s the great term used both by my favourite gaming magazine and perfume blogers - “perfume/game/film/art created by accountants” and this is how I feel about ST now. I only hope they won’t do the remake of OT, but they probably will and this breaks my heart. It should be illegal. Something should happen - people crowfunding things and buying SW back from Disney? stories for the people, not for corporations! - and stop this madness.
Oh, and re: Kylo’s cruelty, because knowing me I’ll never get to answer the longer posts - fandom doesn’t think he’s cruel? really? Hah, I’m out of tune, le typical, but me&my family&my rl friends has thought he’s shown as cruel and pretty… straightforwardly?. I’d not say I’m sure it’s his basic trait - it might be an off-shot of the Dark Side, Snoke’s influence, whatever - but he’s a character who’s joking ordering the execution of the village and starts the tortures from jokes. Damn, even though he obviously likes Rey, he still lord his power over her in TFA, in interrogation room. For me it all - the first two especially - was screaming cruelty and I thought it’s pretty obvious that’s how the authors intended it - perhaps not as a defining trait, but a sign of the cruelty born from the DS at least. I know which psychological mechanism may hide beneath it, but it hardly matter, it’s stil one of the cruellest thing you can do to others, the flippancy at their pain/fear, in real life, yeah, but also I think it’s pretty standard, quick way of showing us the character is evil/cruel/ruthless.
I’m actually at loss here how it can be not considered cruel, to be honest, so the whole thing is, I guess, some deep, instinct-level interpretation and therefore Hux might not be shown as cruel, either, I concede. Perhaps I’m too quick to see the pleasure born from power in the characters; oh well, we’re all oversensitive to our kinks. ;) I never see romances and the romantic tension, never, nope, totally. But the power play and power-games - my mind apparently treats those like sexual/romantic tension and notice it with overzealous attention. ;)
Maybe this is yet more evidence for the FO only having one higher ranked officer? Maybe Hux killed the rest of the High Council and that’s why he’s having to do everything himself now? ;)
But yeah, seriously, with that level of genius the man is a national treasure. Snoke would be stupid to get rid of him and so would the Republic. (Hux may not know this about the Republic, however, given that he’s been brought up to believe it’s hopelessly degenerate.) He’s also on less firm ground with Kylo, who clearly doesn’t like technology anyway and is all about burning down what he doesn’t like, whether or not it advances his interests.
Heh, yes, I don’t have great hopes for Disney’s storytelling in general. I expect only something of a similar sort of complexity as the Original Trilogy, as a best case scenario. But I’ll be happy if they prove me wrong. I liked the trailer and I’m excited again to find out what happens.
*G* I have only ever noticed people in fandom, even in the powers-that-be claiming that Hux was cruel - I haven’t noticed them saying that the same is true of Kylo. But I absolutely agree that Hux is full of the pleasure born from power. I’m more than willing to concede that they’re BOTH cruel. It’s the “Hux is a vile cruel monster and Kylo is a sensitive dark prince,” POV that I really can’t get behind.
(Well, I mean Kylo IS sensitive, and may technically be the prince of a dead planet, but frankly that doesn’t stop him from also being a cruel monster.)
“(Hux may not know this about the Republic, however, given that he’s been brought up to believe it’s hopelessly degenerate.)“
It’s not even about morality, it’s just - pragmatism. I’d sooner believe he didn’t quite get this because there’s still this tiny voice in his head telling him he’s useless. ;) And Republic’s Republic, FO’s FO, but there’re, EU tells us, other powers in the galaxy. Businessbeings. Criminal cartels. Hutts. Shipyards. And they all should be very, very interested, too. Give him a nice villa, alcohol, spice if he wants it, but not too much, and prostitutes, and let him count and draw. What more a man could wish for to rule the world. ;)
It’s a concept for a black comedy fic! all those parties trying to ensure they would get that wunderkind alive (and ending with Archimedes’ scenario. very black comedy) and doing a race to outrun TR, because everybody knows Leia/TR are a fanatics, Leia sacrificed her own planet for the cause (I very much doubt they care about her voice in that; it’s still a pretty striking image and the one which, for the pragmatic being, would be frightening no matter her [un]willingness), there’s the danger they’re gonna ideologically kill our money!
I’d probably also try to find his remaining family and if it’s Palps, all the better and use them as a leverage/hostage, tbh, no matter if I was the cartel or the Republic.
LOL! SW: Race for the Engineer. That could be hilarious, especially if Palpatine was involved. Imagine the patents, the possible business empires that could be built on these inventions. But yeah, they would all probably have to get through Hux’s fanaticism (and other personality disorders) first.
They could all live on Canto Bight’s beaches and drink drinks with the umbrellas! they could even fund stipends&academies for all those poor children, if they care so much!
Yes, yes, yes, exactly, I want my black comedy with heavy economical&political undertones in the background! “You go with us, we’re rescuing you” another guys in the door “No way, he’s going with us.”, while the base is of course falling down all around them, as it always is in the new adventure cinema! And ah, the whole comical chases, qui pro quo and action-adventure sequences we could have there! Indiana Jones and the Starkiller Blueprints (hmm, perhaps Maz paid Han something extra for getting not only his son, but also the intel… a shame he didn’t deliver, but maybe Chewie will). Lando’s being hired by great business&cartels&government&Maz to smuggle Hux out, because TR/Leia trusts ex-Rebels. And, by the way, the great return of Boba Fett and all others bounty hunters, Greedo including - and Hutts! and Qi’ra, for Disney merch department - could be pushed into this comedy, too. All the pluses!
And nobody except a bunch of TR’s and FO’s soldiers care about the whole political system, war and the ideology which will rule the galaxy. “Do you promise to lower the taxes? You have my vote. And my blaster.” Economics wonder if Starkiller attack on Hosnian wasn’t just a manoeuvre to destabilise the currency market/credits and raise the value of the metal&hard cash currencies, because FO has a lot of those - and therefore, the worth of their budget got, like, 1000x bigger with this one shot (perhaps this is what actually Peavey and the rest of the old Imperial think) - and this is the most rational explanation to them.
It’d be hilarious, especially if Hux was oblivious to all this. Classic slapstick. It would work greatly as a 5-minute YT short animation, too. Humour&action for the youngest audience, black comedy&economy for the adults. I want this so much now, I even see how they could target this. :D
(tbh, Maratelle sorta does so in this long fic of mine. striking the deal with NR, too)
May I get in a form of the RTS or turn-based strategy game, too? :D You’re building units and things to race to get the Engineer and over-powered new buildings first! Huge boost for the economy!
…I think it might be possible to make Civ mod like this? I mean, somebody would have to make the visuals&animations - although I’m sure there’re some SW Civ mods already - but except for this…
Sim game would work, too, but I don’t like sim games.
@merryloon - are there mods for Empire at War? :D
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LOL! I love the idea that Hux designed Kylo’s TIE fighter too small for him out of malice :) That’s genius :)
I also love the idea of this slapstick series! It’s not really Star Wars, I guess - not epic and fairy-tale enough - but it would be enormously entertaining :) It would probably work as a role playing game scenario too. Is there a SW role playing game? There really ought to be - the universe is easily big enough to support one.
I agree that it should be possible to persuade Hux that his goals were achievable by inventing things rather than by just bombing them. Torture would probably be counterproductive, and I’m not sure he has any people who could be used as leverage over him. But he’s weak for praise from authority figures, so just telling him that if he really cares about the Outer Rim, then inventing something to make people wealthier there might work, especially if he was then praised to high heavens for it and allowed to go on a lecture tour where people actually wanted to listen to him talk.
On the coercion side I agree with you here, “The forced lack of action, putting someone without many stimuli can be a pretty effective pressure/breaking method and I think for someone like Hux nicely.”
I read a great fic that started with this - he was put on mandatory leave for three days or something and ended up slitting his own throat as a result. (He gets better.) I’m sure I’ve got it bookmarked somewhere. I think you might like it if you haven’t already read it.