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filigranka:
bogleech:
mudgolem:
bogleech:
doomsneigh:
Star Wars isn’t about the plot, the writing, the characters, the Jedis, the Sith, or the Force. Its about the muppet aliens in the background. Thats it.
That was my specific hyper focus from 4 years old to 14
the only reason i “got into” star wars was because of the giant wrinkly desert lizard added in one of the digital re-releases back in the 90s
this thing clearly rules and i had a toy of it so four-year-old me really couldn’t process why the whole movie wasn’t about it
That was actually in the original!!!
….Kind of!!!!
They went to all the trouble of building this magnificent prop but then they couldn’t get it to move convincingly, so they only shot it standing still in the distance and the result was basically unintelligible:
….But there it is! The Dewback! It’s not just a later addition! There was even a toy made all the way back then.
The truest words ever spoken.
(it created the living world and the living, alien world gave the feeling of wonder and immersion which was one of the things which made SW so popular and one of the things which really stayed with even the casual audience. it also allowed for creating EU and merch, and franchise - selling this living world which got people sucked in and fascinated them - and the type of fandom SW has aka changed the economy and customs of popular culture incredibly. and all, in a big part, because of the puppets aka special effects aka living world/immersion, as we call it now - perhaps the word which describes our whole epoch, considering the rise of the video games and video games/player (or just viewer)-oriented aesthetics and culture model, environmental storytelling as it’s called in video games and all that; it was, like any big change, heralded and coming down in parts, and it took time to be recognised and named, and obvs SW was a big part of this turn.
so, yeah. puppets. and music.
In my opinion, of course, this is all just my opinion. ;)
and incredible, art-cinema-quality frames/shoots/visuals in general. this was incredible talent of Lucas, his shoots - so everything, from special effect and decorations to costumes and hairs etc. - are so good and well-made they could as well exist in the most artistic cinema. he decided to do the other thing, but it doesn’t take away the formal quality of the whole visual, frame-based of his SW, his talent to balance things, to not go kitschy in visuals - and this is also something which ST is very painfully lacking - one can just compares any scene, any frame, the props, the decor, how they’re used, the living world etc. - they’re sometimes decent, sometimes terrible, sometimes just good, but they’re not on this incredible artistic level.
also, Lucas know the evil Emperor in black robes need to sit on the very simple, minimalist, techno-like throne, to not get kitschy, not on damn throne with spikes a la faux-medieval witch from Disney film [yes, I saw the leaks before Big Mouse took them away, they, visually, formally-wise, were just ugly]
but yeah, puppets in SW are in a big part what changed the industry and popculture into what we have now. this and video games [look at the way popculture films use camera - the point of view in which viewer is placed is much more often 1st person, now, then the distanced, 3rd person observer, the camera is closer etc. this is one of the easiest to spot effects of immersion-based or video games’ aesthetics.]
this was Fili’s with formalist, more Russian formalism than US one I guess ;)), digression).
For me right from the very start –and I do mean the very beginning–it was the star destroyers. I queued up round the block for the opening of Star Wars when it wasn’t even yet known as A New Hope, and the very first scene of the Imperial Star Destroyer eclipsing the frame and going on and on and on like a city overhead BLEW MY TINY LITTLE MIND. And then there was Luke’s speeder which was clearly FLOATING ON THIN AIR!! Plus the fact that all the people appeared to be wearing clothes that looked like real practical clothes (unlike the tin-foil body-suits that movies in those days typically used for futuristic clothes) and it just felt so much more real and thought through than any SF movie ever before. You really did believe it was a whole different galaxy.
filigranka:
bogleech:
mudgolem:
bogleech:
doomsneigh:
Star Wars isn’t about the plot, the writing, the characters, the Jedis, the Sith, or the Force. Its about the muppet aliens in the background. Thats it.
That was my specific hyper focus from 4 years old to 14
the only reason i “got into” star wars was because of the giant wrinkly desert lizard added in one of the digital re-releases back in the 90s
this thing clearly rules and i had a toy of it so four-year-old me really couldn’t process why the whole movie wasn’t about it
That was actually in the original!!!
….Kind of!!!!
They went to all the trouble of building this magnificent prop but then they couldn’t get it to move convincingly, so they only shot it standing still in the distance and the result was basically unintelligible:
….But there it is! The Dewback! It’s not just a later addition! There was even a toy made all the way back then.
The truest words ever spoken.
(it created the living world and the living, alien world gave the feeling of wonder and immersion which was one of the things which made SW so popular and one of the things which really stayed with even the casual audience. it also allowed for creating EU and merch, and franchise - selling this living world which got people sucked in and fascinated them - and the type of fandom SW has aka changed the economy and customs of popular culture incredibly. and all, in a big part, because of the puppets aka special effects aka living world/immersion, as we call it now - perhaps the word which describes our whole epoch, considering the rise of the video games and video games/player (or just viewer)-oriented aesthetics and culture model, environmental storytelling as it’s called in video games and all that; it was, like any big change, heralded and coming down in parts, and it took time to be recognised and named, and obvs SW was a big part of this turn.
so, yeah. puppets. and music.
In my opinion, of course, this is all just my opinion. ;)
and incredible, art-cinema-quality frames/shoots/visuals in general. this was incredible talent of Lucas, his shoots - so everything, from special effect and decorations to costumes and hairs etc. - are so good and well-made they could as well exist in the most artistic cinema. he decided to do the other thing, but it doesn’t take away the formal quality of the whole visual, frame-based of his SW, his talent to balance things, to not go kitschy in visuals - and this is also something which ST is very painfully lacking - one can just compares any scene, any frame, the props, the decor, how they’re used, the living world etc. - they’re sometimes decent, sometimes terrible, sometimes just good, but they’re not on this incredible artistic level.
also, Lucas know the evil Emperor in black robes need to sit on the very simple, minimalist, techno-like throne, to not get kitschy, not on damn throne with spikes a la faux-medieval witch from Disney film [yes, I saw the leaks before Big Mouse took them away, they, visually, formally-wise, were just ugly]
but yeah, puppets in SW are in a big part what changed the industry and popculture into what we have now. this and video games [look at the way popculture films use camera - the point of view in which viewer is placed is much more often 1st person, now, then the distanced, 3rd person observer, the camera is closer etc. this is one of the easiest to spot effects of immersion-based or video games’ aesthetics.]
this was Fili’s with formalist, more Russian formalism than US one I guess ;)), digression).
For me right from the very start –and I do mean the very beginning–it was the star destroyers. I queued up round the block for the opening of Star Wars when it wasn’t even yet known as A New Hope, and the very first scene of the Imperial Star Destroyer eclipsing the frame and going on and on and on like a city overhead BLEW MY TINY LITTLE MIND. And then there was Luke’s speeder which was clearly FLOATING ON THIN AIR!! Plus the fact that all the people appeared to be wearing clothes that looked like real practical clothes (unlike the tin-foil body-suits that movies in those days typically used for futuristic clothes) and it just felt so much more real and thought through than any SF movie ever before. You really did believe it was a whole different galaxy.