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Well, well, well, it seems, from what Reddit got, leaks were true. Burger King adds, too, therefore.
I SO wish sequels never happened and we got no more ‘canonical’ films/info about OT trio, only EU. No sequels. Can we cancel them?
Very incoherent venting below. Based mostly on Reddit’s spoilers.
Edit: oh wait, now Disney tries to delete them. And Reddits responds by reposting screencaps, because Disney, focused on premiere, let the images float for a good hour or two. So now it’s disney vs. redditers.
Pffft.
At least their comments and jokes, and critique are pure gold. If they will shut down the channel - and the other ones, which will be created - it’ll become a pure gold, too. Battle against monopoly of our time, battle of information. :DD
No, really, Reddit’s critique is on point and 100%, inside-world, outside world, meta level, everything. I always liked meta fandom. <3 <3 <3
Czytaj dalej
I wake up and they’re all true.
Well, at least my predictions that poster shows us Weltschmerz Hux aka he’ll help our heroes and get some sort of “I was killed because of my work for the good guys, so, in SW universe reality, I’m redeemed” ending. Which, eh, is Ok for me, because at least we’re not getting the terribly unmoral “kids of bad guys can’t get redeemed, redemption is for Skywalkers only”.
So this is good. At least this, there’s one good thing I didn’t dare to hope for done, apparently? Perhaps. This is good.
And if ressurections are now confirmed in SW universe, then all of them, Kylo, Hux, Leia, Luke etc. may come in EU. Or in fics. Or I may write ghosts’ orgy. Because the Force can create children and they can use the Force - Rey might yet have a ghost!baby. ;)
And if it’s so easy for the ghosts to appear and be, then Rey might even play a family with her ghost!parents Leia and Luke. Leia/Luke shippers - after so many years, you’re validated. ;)
I’m heartbroken and trying to joke, because, well.
Stuff with Rey’s parentage is just - oh. it’s so OTT. It - like, really, it feels like she’s supposed to be a self-insert in a romance VN and therefore she gets it all, including being the chosen one and female version of Anakin. I’m just - I’m just - why and how, and how terrible…
I cried so much.OT’s ruined. I’m back to crying, I guess.
It’s probably, considering reviews, a fun movie, action-packed, with problems with too many plots, but fun and making you feel, if you stop thinking about plots, narrative etc. Epic. Of course people cried, but c’mon, you had Leia dying and then her son dying and then her appear as a ghost with Luke, of course people cried. It was easy. It was a movie which handed the bulletproof ways of making people cry to the creators, they didn’t need to do literally anything.
But I think for those who are interested in ST mainly and don’t care much about politics, or just are casual fans, not attached to OT etc. - and like fast paced action films, epic and bombastic, it’s a fun movie. Well-made (although the cg and make-up surely look terrible in leaks). Fun. Adventure. Feelings.
But it totally undermines OT and everything else, it makes them all like - pointless. Broken experiments. It’s horrible.
I don’t know if there’s enough of meds and alcohol in the world to help me.
I’m still crying and shaking.
But it’s also impressive, they managed to cancel and retcon and destroy both OT and PT despite the contract which forbade them from changing them. But also, from the editor’s point, OT is pretty totally meaningless now.
And I have no idea how the creators might think this is a hopeful ending. I mean, only if you completely stop thinking about OT characters and their arcs and treat them as props for nostalgia and Rey’s story? If you take only ST in account - but even then, who survives? Palpatine. Skywalker as family are actually dead (and, like, Rey spent three days with Luke, she should call herself Solo or Organa, if anything). Republic, heh, perhaps there’s some new republic, we saw how it ended in the last time (because of course Rebellion fought for Republic and conflict in OT was political, but now it’s only about balance of the Force, actually, you see. sure, we bet bad guys, but do you think new new republic would be better than previous one? there’s nothing to base this off and this is what Luke and Leia fought for, this is for what Alderaan and Hosnian was destroyed, how one can make such a cruel, stupid, amoral narrative, really). All Skywalkers aka our heroes died young and saw their works well, in ashes. They saw their son and nephew went the same path as their father, being cruel, killing them, destroying planets etc., everything they fought against - and at the consolation they might have the fact he perhaps died redeemed and is with them in the afterlife. They didn’t even defeat Palpatine or Empire and it’s actually Rey who’s chosen one or at least another one, and can be Skywalker because. I mean, this destroyed any sense of OT, why not skip OT and new republic and go real saviour Rey, then.
But also, how on earth one may consider such an ending of all 9 films - from which 6 wasn’t about Rey, Disney - of Anakin’s and Luke’s and Leia’s, and Han’s, and Republic’s and all other’s fate “hopeful”? I mean, on which planet. And they honestly believe it just - how?
i mean, for casual viewers who don’t care much about Skywalkers’ history or previous films it probably is hopeful, but if you’re boasting about ending the saga you should probably take the actual previous stories and characters’ arcs into account, right?
But I have to say, it’s almost impossible how viciously, cleverly they did Lucas dirty. How they destroyed the characters’ and arcs he built. Made them nothing. It’s - almost an art. How they managed.
Well, perhaps this is what Lucas wanted. His revenge on the fandom.
I haven’t seen it yet, and with my broken messenger system and lack of asks I can’t send you a private message to say how sorry I am that this has upset you so much and that it was all so much of a disappointment/offense. So Im’ reblogging with nothing to say about the film, but just to say *hugs* and I sympathize with the feeling that fandom has become bad for the mental health. Maybe we could get into writing original fic instead?
filigranka:
filigranka:
filigranka:
Well, well, well, it seems, from what Reddit got, leaks were true. Burger King adds, too, therefore.
I SO wish sequels never happened and we got no more ‘canonical’ films/info about OT trio, only EU. No sequels. Can we cancel them?
Very incoherent venting below. Based mostly on Reddit’s spoilers.
Edit: oh wait, now Disney tries to delete them. And Reddits responds by reposting screencaps, because Disney, focused on premiere, let the images float for a good hour or two. So now it’s disney vs. redditers.
Pffft.
At least their comments and jokes, and critique are pure gold. If they will shut down the channel - and the other ones, which will be created - it’ll become a pure gold, too. Battle against monopoly of our time, battle of information. :DD
No, really, Reddit’s critique is on point and 100%, inside-world, outside world, meta level, everything. I always liked meta fandom. <3 <3 <3
Czytaj dalej
I wake up and they’re all true.
Well, at least my predictions that poster shows us Weltschmerz Hux aka he’ll help our heroes and get some sort of “I was killed because of my work for the good guys, so, in SW universe reality, I’m redeemed” ending. Which, eh, is Ok for me, because at least we’re not getting the terribly unmoral “kids of bad guys can’t get redeemed, redemption is for Skywalkers only”.
So this is good. At least this, there’s one good thing I didn’t dare to hope for done, apparently? Perhaps. This is good.
And if ressurections are now confirmed in SW universe, then all of them, Kylo, Hux, Leia, Luke etc. may come in EU. Or in fics. Or I may write ghosts’ orgy. Because the Force can create children and they can use the Force - Rey might yet have a ghost!baby. ;)
And if it’s so easy for the ghosts to appear and be, then Rey might even play a family with her ghost!parents Leia and Luke. Leia/Luke shippers - after so many years, you’re validated. ;)
I’m heartbroken and trying to joke, because, well.
Stuff with Rey’s parentage is just - oh. it’s so OTT. It - like, really, it feels like she’s supposed to be a self-insert in a romance VN and therefore she gets it all, including being the chosen one and female version of Anakin. I’m just - I’m just - why and how, and how terrible…
I cried so much.OT’s ruined. I’m back to crying, I guess.
It’s probably, considering reviews, a fun movie, action-packed, with problems with too many plots, but fun and making you feel, if you stop thinking about plots, narrative etc. Epic. Of course people cried, but c’mon, you had Leia dying and then her son dying and then her appear as a ghost with Luke, of course people cried. It was easy. It was a movie which handed the bulletproof ways of making people cry to the creators, they didn’t need to do literally anything.
But I think for those who are interested in ST mainly and don’t care much about politics, or just are casual fans, not attached to OT etc. - and like fast paced action films, epic and bombastic, it’s a fun movie. Well-made (although the cg and make-up surely look terrible in leaks). Fun. Adventure. Feelings.
But it totally undermines OT and everything else, it makes them all like - pointless. Broken experiments. It’s horrible.
I don’t know if there’s enough of meds and alcohol in the world to help me.
I’m still crying and shaking.
But it’s also impressive, they managed to cancel and retcon and destroy both OT and PT despite the contract which forbade them from changing them. But also, from the editor’s point, OT is pretty totally meaningless now.
And I have no idea how the creators might think this is a hopeful ending. I mean, only if you completely stop thinking about OT characters and their arcs and treat them as props for nostalgia and Rey’s story? If you take only ST in account - but even then, who survives? Palpatine. Skywalker as family are actually dead (and, like, Rey spent three days with Luke, she should call herself Solo or Organa, if anything). Republic, heh, perhaps there’s some new republic, we saw how it ended in the last time (because of course Rebellion fought for Republic and conflict in OT was political, but now it’s only about balance of the Force, actually, you see. sure, we bet bad guys, but do you think new new republic would be better than previous one? there’s nothing to base this off and this is what Luke and Leia fought for, this is for what Alderaan and Hosnian was destroyed, how one can make such a cruel, stupid, amoral narrative, really). All Skywalkers aka our heroes died young and saw their works well, in ashes. They saw their son and nephew went the same path as their father, being cruel, killing them, destroying planets etc., everything they fought against - and at the consolation they might have the fact he perhaps died redeemed and is with them in the afterlife. They didn’t even defeat Palpatine or Empire and it’s actually Rey who’s chosen one or at least another one, and can be Skywalker because. I mean, this destroyed any sense of OT, why not skip OT and new republic and go real saviour Rey, then.
But also, how on earth one may consider such an ending of all 9 films - from which 6 wasn’t about Rey, Disney - of Anakin’s and Luke’s and Leia’s, and Han’s, and Republic’s and all other’s fate “hopeful”? I mean, on which planet. And they honestly believe it just - how?
i mean, for casual viewers who don’t care much about Skywalkers’ history or previous films it probably is hopeful, but if you’re boasting about ending the saga you should probably take the actual previous stories and characters’ arcs into account, right?
But I have to say, it’s almost impossible how viciously, cleverly they did Lucas dirty. How they destroyed the characters’ and arcs he built. Made them nothing. It’s - almost an art. How they managed.
Well, perhaps this is what Lucas wanted. His revenge on the fandom.
I haven’t seen it yet, and with my broken messenger system and lack of asks I can’t send you a private message to say how sorry I am that this has upset you so much and that it was all so much of a disappointment/offense. So Im’ reblogging with nothing to say about the film, but just to say *hugs* and I sympathize with the feeling that fandom has become bad for the mental health. Maybe we could get into writing original fic instead?
